Faith No More’s Angel Dust: The Dark Genius of a Genre-Defying Classic

You have a really waste, I can't bet your future

Your future, your future

You are an angel, headed for a land of sunshine

For sure you smile

Riffology

I wasn't ready

Hello

You are very poorly

We had a week off because you were ill

I was going to say I'm not ill very often

We both are ill quite often

Isn't that on Lindsay's bingo card?

It is, Lindsay's bingo, yeah, we're not very well

But what I will say is that there's a difference between being ill, ill

And, you know, when you're like, oh, I don't feel very well

I quite like that

Do you know what I mean?

It's basically an excuse to not do stuff

Yes

And I like that

I didn't like this very much at all

I was like, I felt, you know, when you feel a bit ill

I felt like Thursday and Friday

And I felt, oh, yeah, I'm not feeling brilliant

And then I got to Friday afternoon

And I finished like my last meeting and everything

And I was kind of just writing up my notes and stuff

And then I just got this headache

From, you know, when you get like

Like proper headaches

It's like, you know, the world stops kind of thing

And I was like, I can't

I just got to, I got to go and like get into bed

I feel awful

And I got into bed and I closed my eyes

And then I woke up and it was Monday morning

Yeah, yeah

And, you know, I'd like lost five kilograms

And I felt awful, you know

And then, and that's been this week really

Just kind of recovering

Just kind of filling myself with electrolytes

And vitamins and paracetamol and stuff

But I'm, I'm all right

Do you know what it was?

No

No

Cold

Flu, I don't know, whatever

They wouldn't, they're you thinking

You know, like today

Everything's got a name, hasn't it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah

You've got to have a

I remember when I was a kid

Everything was a cold

Yeah, yeah

Nobody had the flu

No, no, it's just a cold

There were stories of people that had the flu 10 years ago

Yeah

No one, you weren't allowed to actually have the flu

Yeah

But now everything's got a name

But I don't know

I just, just snot and headache and that

Yeah, yeah

I didn't, nothing came out of the bottom

No

Because I rang 111

Yeah

And, you know, and they were like

Oh, is it coming out of the top or the bottom, love?

Yeah

And I was like, it's not coming out of the bottom either

Oh, you'll be fine

Wow

And I was

So she was spot on

Oh, you'll be fine

You'll be fine

Oh, you'll be fine

I think we've lost a bit of that in modern society

Yeah, yeah, there's always, oh God

There's solemnity and drama

Yeah

About everything

Yeah, what am I going to, am I going to die from a cold?

Anyway, so I'm a bit of a horse

And I'm a bit coffee

Yeah

But I'm all wrong with it

But I have to be honest

Mm

And we always start with a confession lately

We're covering Faith in the Moor's Angel Dust

Yeah

This week

Yeah

Because someone asked us to

Yeah

And I

There was a poll

Yeah, there was a poll

Yeah

But I, I hated this

Yeah

When it came out

I didn't, I didn't like it very much

Mm-hmm

And I didn't know why

Until we did, did kind of the, you know, the research for the show

Because, you know, we do a little bit of reading in that for the show

And it, when, like the real thing, which we covered

Yeah

It's quite riffy

Yeah, yeah, yeah

It's a lot of kind of, it's metally and riffy and a bit, do you know what I mean?

It's quite, it's quite heavy in places

And I really liked that

Yeah

And then, that's what I wanted

Mm

And this wasn't that, this, that, like, Angel Dust is more

And there's still some really cool riffs and some really cool guitar work in it

Yeah

But it was, it was more, um, I think people keep describing it as avant-garde, don't they?

Yeah, yeah, yeah

But there was

I think people use words like that when they can't pigeonhole it

I don't know

Yeah, yeah

But it was like, it's got like jazz in it

And it's got like, um, there are bits in there that sound like journey

Yeah

And there are bits in there that sound like, you know, um, like, I, I, I, you know

Like you say, it's really difficult

And it's kind of this, this kind of mishmash of genres and stuff

And, and I didn't like that

I was like, I didn't, I, I, I remember I listened to this once

And then literally, and you know, in that kind of, you got compartmentalized bit of your brain

And you're just like, I don't like that

Yeah

So I would never go back and listen to it

Yeah

Again, if it, if it appeared, if it, if, um, you know, the, the mighty, um, uh, streaming services decided it should show me this album

I would have just skipped it and go, no, no, no, no, I could, because in like that bias is like, I don't like it

Yeah

Um, like preparing for the show, I thought, well, I could listen to it, I suppose

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'd just absolutely fallen in love with it

Yeah, yeah, yeah, um, it is absolutely blown me away

And, like, so much so that I kind of can't

It's a little bit, um, a little bit, well, like, oh, a weird personal journey

But I kind of almost can't relate to the person that listened to it

Yeah

And didn't

Yeah, yeah, yeah

Like, does that make sense?

Yeah, yeah, totally

And I'm like, I don't know

What, I don't, I'm not sure what you were doing, Johnson

Back then

What, what, how, do you know what I mean?

How, how can you not have

Do you know when you, like, get a new album

And, like, you think this is the best album ever

Yeah, yeah, yeah

And someone says, it's all right

Yeah, yeah, yeah

It's a bit like that for this, for me

I, I'm like, I don't, I can't

I mean, I can't think how long ago it would have been

But, like, 30-odd years ago

Um, but I'm like, well, how?

Yeah

You were so happy

Things were time better than we had planned

Capital from our woman and band

We were like deep paper

And almost on a calculator

New arithmetic's a well

I can't know if I'll be tired

To be what was I'll be tired

We had to multiply ourselves

I'm bouncing to be

A shining cup of candy

And his fancy old school

Would not listen to us

But when he lost his appetite

He lost his windbreak

He became a valley

So fast

They came pure

But he played

But it shook me

Soon our boy

Became a million

People had a lot of tears

And they'll take them to the world

And they'll take them to the world

Everyone knew the thing that was this

Of course they must do this

What can anyone do?

What can anyone do?

No

What can anyone do?

No

What can anyone do?

No

What can anyone do?

No

What can anyone do?

No

What can anyone do?

Once he made us proud

He made us rich

And how old he to know

These countless figures

Now everything's rough

Now everything's rough

Now everything's rough

Now everything's rough

Yeah

Now everything's rough

Yeah

Now everything's rough

Yeah

Now everything's rough

Yeah

Now everything's rough

Yeah

Now everything's rough

Yeah

Now everything's rough

Yeah

Yeah

Yeah

Yeah

Now everything's rough

Now everything's rough

Now everything's rough

will tell you that the impulse to change or the decisions that you make comes on

just naturally. So for us it was that. It was a natural sort of just transition

into what Angel Dust was. But saying that it's also probably pertinent to point out

the couple of years before we recorded Angel Dust. Going into that process was

pretty intense and changed us as a band. We've been working as a band for a long

time. Touring, making records kind of relentlessly and we had had our first

kind of taste of success and our first taste of like people liking us.

And talking about us and appreciating us. And I don't know, we're kind of a fickle

bunch of people. I know Billy and myself particularly were super sarcastic kids and

kind of had a lot of attitude. So when we were suddenly accoladed with a lot of

like praise and attention for something that we had done rather than just sort

of take it and be happy with it. I think we took it further and said kind of like to

our people that liked us and said, "Oh yeah? Well how do you like this?" In a kind of bratty way. So there was a way that we kind of stretched in making Angel Dust that was based on sort of like what had happened the past couple of years.

Stylistically too. And all of us collectively learned kind of leaned into a more darker sound because that felt bold. And yeah, kind of not weak. Not weak, but it just felt like a strong stance to take to sort of double down.

A strong stance to take to sort of double down.

How could you not have appreciated it when it came out?

Yeah.

So I'm having a bit of a bit of a crisis.

A midlife crisis.

A midlife crisis.

A midlife crisis. There we go.

But how about you? Because you loved this, didn't you?

Yeah. You see, this was an album that I know. The reasons that you didn't like it were the reasons that I loved it.

Because it was a mishmash because it didn't really feel like an album. It didn't feel like a flowing like conceptual journey.

It felt like a load of tracks just gone on a record. And because when I when I was exploring music at this time

and I was just getting into writing music and getting in bands and all that, I was it was a really creatively sort of free period of my life where, you know,

I'd write a song and it was a folk song and then I write something that sounded like metal and then I write something that sounded like, I don't know, whatever, you know,

And then I have an electronic thing that I was doing. Yeah. And I didn't have the confines of genre when I was creating.

So you would just, yeah. So I was really into just like making stuff. I didn't care what it was.

And that's I think that's why this album resonated with me the most because it sounds like a load of guys making stuff and not getting too bogged down in the in the kind of like overthinking it.

They were just making they were just Dan said this the other week. This is Dan Baker who we speak about every day and then and he said something.

He comes out with these every now and then and they're really profound things that he says and I've used it probably in about 30 conversations since.

Yeah, because we were talking about like being in a band and what it's about and he was like, he's like look when it comes down to it and I might be paraphrasing a bit,

but he said just makes making stuff in it. And I was like it. Yes,

it really is. And we get so lost. Yeah, in this other stuff, you know, and I don't know. It's a strange thing.

And when you when you pull it back to it's just makes making stuff, that's why and that's why you've got easy on this.

You've got Midnight Cowboy you've got, you know, like they were just mates making stuff, you know, and and and I think

they just come I don't know like because of the real thing threaded together really well as a record and that definitely had a feel as an album.

Yeah, it was a conceptual piece of work. This is like just throwing paint at a canvas and see where it lands.

That's what it feels like to me. I I think this is. Yeah, I think it's really interesting because

I'm sorry. Just say I had this on CD. I was that was the first deal then. Yeah, if it's like real CD. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no.

There was a serious commitment of purchase in the shop. That's how much I like this album. Sorry.

I think it's interesting with this one because Jim Martin who did the guitar work. Yeah, wasn't involved with this record pretty much.

There's a few interviews of him and a few bits where he kind of says I didn't really get involved with Angel Dust at all.

I didn't like the direction that the band was taking. I didn't like that that kind of random approach to it.

And I wanted more metal. Yeah, and I think he was metal. I mean, he was it was big into metal.

You could hear it through the real thing. I think that's kind of metal influence all the way through and that's what he loved.

And then the band the whole band for Angel Dust to kind of veering off in this. Yeah, slightly different direction.

And I think Jim's like, I know this is amazing. Yeah. And I think to your point, it's like the band, you know, all your mates are making music that you don't like anymore.

Hmm, you know, so so he's kind of steadily just kind of going I don't I'm out. Yeah, but it's interesting that the there's a lovely quote from the record label for Angel Dust saying that it was career suicide that they built this fan base that were expecting a kind of a metal album.

Yeah, but their fat their fan base were metal fans. And, and that they were going to put out this kind of like bizarre album, and it was just not going to go anywhere.

And, and I love the fact that the band are just like, well, that's what we are. That's what we did. I mean, that's where we're going. Yeah, right. Yeah.

And, and, and, you know, people loved it. I mean, it did. I mean, there must have been a lot of people like me at the time that were just like, Oh, actually, no, disillusioned by that's not, that's not for me. And the thing is, I mean, this came out in 92.

Which, I mean, 92 was a ridiculous year for, for, for, for album. There was, there was no, and I kind of remember this coming out. I'm just kind of whatever.

Yeah. Do you know what I mean? And it was just like, I'm not, you know, because there was so much other stuff out there. We, yeah, we got a lot Alice in Change, Rage Against the Machine came out.

Countdown to Destruction came out, Vulgar Display of Power came out.

It was, it was massive. There was no, yeah, it was, it was so, so for me, like, Angel just was just, oh, well, yeah, you know, whatever, I'll go and listen to something else. Like, oh yeah, I picked up, you know, Rage Against the Machine or whatever.

And so, um, I, I get, I totally get why the record company, well, because the record company would have seen all these, you know, massive metal albums that are coming through in 92.

I do think that that kind of carved them out a bit of a niche because it built, built them a new set of fans, I think.

Yes.

Do you know what I mean? There's a bunch of people that perhaps, um, if they'd have produced another real thing.

Yeah. And it got lost in the.

Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it wouldn't, I mean, I'm sure it wouldn't have been like, you know, like totally lost in the melee.

But I do think that it kind of, um, carved them out a bit of a, um, a niche because, because they get, oh, this album particularly, uh, I remember listening to, uh, the Dillinger boys, the Dillinger escape plan.

There's, I mean, we need to cover some of their albums actually, but they, um, there's a lovely bit in, uh, like really early on in there.

I think they were doing, um, uh, as infinity or miss machine or something, but they, they were talking about their influences and, um, like, like talking about Mike Patton and faith no more as if they're like, like deities is kind of like this, you know, they, they, they kind of taught us that it's, it's okay to do this stuff.

You know what I mean? Like you, you, you mates are in the room and you're, and you're making stuff. Um, you make what you want to make, right? You're not making something that's commercial. It's, and actually probably is going to be people out there, but there'll be people out there that will enjoy and like what you're doing.

Yeah. And, and they were like, and if it wasn't for faith no more, we probably wouldn't have had that confidence to go into the studio and do, you know, which was like for Dillinger, pretty extreme.

chaotic stuff. Um, so yeah, I, I don't know. I think, I think this, for me, this one is like super iconic and not just in and of itself. It was, you know, it was the band like, like not exerting their control, but it's the band doing their thing.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then the impact that had afterwards, cause some albums are just massive. And we did, we did a countdown to extinction from Megadeth. It was a great record, sold billions of copies, absolutely brilliant.

didn't change the world. No. Yeah. It wasn't, it wasn't an album like, like you could go and cross the album out completely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think the, I don't think it would have had a massive impact on what happened later. Yeah. But there was some, I mean, there were some albums that do like, uh, P sells from Megadeth. Yeah. I think that did change the world. And I think that there are some albums that do that. Um, and I think this is one that, that just, just changed the world. Yeah. There's a, there's a, um, uh, like a before and after almost.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and it wasn't just the music. It was the way the band kind of defied, you know, the commercial agreed. Yeah. Way to go and make money from, from music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But even like, you know, something I've spoken about before we, we press record was, I found the interviews really hard to edit because that wasn't their thing.

And, and, and, you know, you can sort of tell listening to them is that they don't really like doing interviews. Um, they don't really care. They've got no, no, no, no one's, no one's trained them on how to do PR stuff. You know, no, there's none of that. There's been no media training. They're just, they're just mates that have made music. There's someone suddenly gone, Oh, can you just, can you just do a, an interview with these guys? And they've gone, Oh God.

The fans need somebody who can just sit and hand wave in front of a, you know what I mean? In front of a journalist. And I think you can see when that, that person, like, um, Led Zeppelin. Yeah. And that person's missing. Yes. That person's not there. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just chaos, isn't it? It's just that, because that's the front of the band. And it's like, yeah.

And it also makes me think about, there was something we did ages and ages ago where we did, okay, computer. Yeah. And, um, and then there was like Tom was boss. Yeah. But actually thinking about it in this context, maybe Tom was just the one that was all right. Speaking in interviews and they left him to it. Yeah. I do think there's a certain thing to that. Like my, um, my youngest is, is starting to get really into music at the moment. And, um, it's, I just think it's, it's fascinating that, um,

that type of personality that, that do that. They tend to be a little bit kind of, um, you just zone in on, on the thing. Do you know what I mean? You see, I like you uber focus on the music, like watching him learning, he's learning the piano at the minute and watching him zone in and do like for two hours, he'll just be sitting and he's got his headphones and he's just playing the same thing over and over and over. He's just trying to get it and trying to get it and trying to get it. Um, and I think if you think about like the,

the, um, you know, the type of personalities that like talking to people and like engaging, they don't do that.

No. And I think, so there's a natural, there's kind of almost this natural thing, isn't there? Where, you know, um, you've got the, the, the natural type of personality that go into music and like making music and not the same type of people that are naturally at home.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, talking to the cameras and, and interviews and stuff. So that's really true actually. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's interesting.

i was i saw a great interview with tool um this week and you may not get tons of abuse in the

press typically um but you can just see the rest of the band are just like nope no no don't point

that thing at me point at him point ask him and and it's um i was watching it and you sometimes

you think like when you see um yeah when we saw the radio head stuff you just think oh god he's

you know that they're petrified of him yeah but actually yeah yeah probably it's just yeah

the others just don't don't ask me a question because i've made pieces yeah we did um i worked

with one of our juniors a couple of weeks ago it's her first time um uh like presenting or well it's

not true the first time being recorded yeah and there's a real difference when you're speaking

when you're speaking yeah yeah yeah especially about something technical right like doing this

is brilliant because it's like you know you oh you know someone's like oh you you said this happened

in 1927 and it happened in 1928 i don't care but um but when you're at work and you're doing it and

and you and you screw up it's like oh balls you know i mean you have to um and she was petrified she

said like what if i make a mistake yeah what if i say the wrong thing what was it and and it was just

this um you could just see this anxiety built of but it's about at least the fear of making a mistake

it's the fear of saying something wrong and saying the wrong thing yeah and um it's like just as you

were talking there it just it just kind of hit me that like imagine you were in the band you're in

faith no more and you're in the you being interviewed and you say the thing that gets you cancelled or

you do you know what i mean you say the thing that starts a row with another band or whatever um

yeah i i that's a lot of pressure i can totally get how how yeah i just don't yeah you don't want

that yeah i just want to go into you know like i want to go with my mates and i want to go and

you know what i mean i want to go make some music please thank you

so this one so the first one when we did when we did the real thing yeah i'm right in thinking that

mike patten came in and the songs were already recorded and he just had to lay the vocals on

yeah he wrote the lyrics whereas this time yeah this is very he had more of a sort of say in what

was going on no i've been working on it a lot but it's kind of i've wanted to i make a bad i've made a

conscious effort this time to spend a lot more time and spread it out over a longer period of

time because last time i wrote the lyrics really quick and i mean it worked and everything but

kind of all that i don't know i think the only way to really progress is to be ashamed of what

you've just done and that's maybe a strong word but you got to do something completely different

this album is going to be different lyrically musically everything and it's hard to sit down

because when you sit down and write lyrics you want to do it like you're doing a term paper you want to

get a pot of coffee and you want to get them over with you want to get it out of your system it's not

fun and what happens when you do that is like you end up writing a lot of like usually you're in a bad

mood just by chance you're in a bad mood right never happens you know it's just uh you know

just a fluke you just you're in a bad mood you sit down and write and uh everything events ends up

sounding mad which is great but then you got a pretty mad album on your hands and you need you need at least

you know one or two other perspectives on the record you know that should definitely dominate but

you gotta have some other things on there so you get all that madness out of your system

all the all of the anger and and uh you're feeling pretty good and then

you watch some tilting don't don't use any of this man what am i saying

was there anyone but yeah you then you got to spread it out if you spread

out what you're doing over a longer period of time you'll get a million different perspectives

and uh it were it just makes for a more rounded well-rounded you know rated g album

i took a lot from uh an l ron hubbard personality test

and some from fortune cookies i went out and bought like a lot of fortune cookies

and took some legs for that that's a real positive song um another one

i'm kind of inspired by this new neighborhood i moved into just really white trash disgusting

neighborhood where all these creeps walk around and i was kind of inspired by that so i just sat in my

car and watched people fell asleep woke up wrote some words so there's one about that and there's one

about um there's a couple like character sketches about imaginary people that's what the white trash

one's about it's about this real slob guy

kind of identify with him um uh there's a few about sex

can't can't really avoid that one um

yeah yeah for me right now sex is a little kind of like music you kind of got to get as far away from it

as you can

and the farther away that sex is from sex that's great the better it is for sex

and uh i'm making some sense here huh

pushing all over a sudden into a cross

for keep the clever and the bull and shake him on onto your breath

hide your face in the contents

hide your face in the contents

that our homes last so close

and it rolls off the dark almost

the road's responsible for family natural

who suck

swearing when concrete is swearing you'll never be

Coach

Buy your weekend, snatch yourself

And we'll close on every game

Waldo's Sweet Dog Cafe

Make our friends, come home to my friends

War confessing reasons

But it's so easy for you

There's always one thing

Do you have something to tell me?

Say something

I don't want anything

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

Relax

It's just a phase

You know I want you

You know I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

I want you

Mike Patton

I want you

You know I want you

Patton just coming

And at the end

Yeah

Doing his bit

Yeah and literally

So the way

The way they described this

And I don't know how

How true this is

But the way it's described

Is literally kind of Jim

Was just like

Just not involved

Not in the studio

Not really part of it

And then was brought in at the end

With a you know

Sit there

Play this

Really

Yeah

And then he did it

And then went

And then that was

Obviously that was

That was kind of it

I've definitely been

More involved in the

Songwriting process

This time around

Because last time

They kind of wrote

All the songs

And I just came in

And wrote the words

And it was kind of

Sterile

And this time

Arrangement wise

I was a little more involved

And I wrote some things

And

Tried harder

And definitely spent more time

On writing words

And

Gee we just got so close

On this album

Everyone got so close

We were just like

A really little

Like a little family

I don't really know

How to write a song

In the sense that

It has a form

Like A, B, A, B

One, two, three, four

Kind of thing

I just

Kind of don't really

Know how to do that

To make things sound

Catchy and in order

And like in a

In a little package

That you can call a song

So that's what it

Sounds like

It sounds like

Kind of a collection

Of

There is sort of

A form to it

But it's nothing you can

Really hum

And it's

Also does not

It won't sound like

Faith No More

Really at all

Which is I think

A pretty good thing

And I think a lot of people

Are going to go

What the hell is this

But it's kind of

I don't know

It kind of sounds like

Cinematic

It kind of sounds

Yeah

More like

Death metal movie music

Or something

But

Since I'm not

A very good communicator

It's a lot easier

For me to write

Everything

And put it on a tape

And say

This is the idea

I had

And then

If that sparks

Any other ideas

In anyone else

They can play it

If not

They can just copy it

And it worked out

Pretty well

But

Yeah it was fun

Because I'm used to

Working with people

That kind of know

That I can't write a song

And they kind of

Somehow miraculously

Know what I'm thinking

Because I can't write music

And

You know

So I can

I can say this thing

Or hum this thing

Or

Give a visual description

And someone will go

Okay I know exactly

What you mean

And they can play it

But with these guys

You know

I hadn't really written

Anything with them before

And

It was

It was interesting

Because

The intention wasn't there

No one really knew

What the intention was

But it kind of

Became apparent

After

We actually learned the thing

I just recorded it

At my house

And gave everyone a tape

And

This is really funny

Because when this album

Comes out

Or people

The people might watch this

And think

Oh wow

I'm going to

Like it's a big deal

Or something

And it's just a rotten song

But anyway

Yeah

We made like a little chart

A list of parts

Since it's nothing

You can really remember

And basically out of repetition

Kind of like rote memorization

They learned it

And

It's

It'll really stick out

Because this band

Has really clever

Like

They're really

The arrangements

Are really

You know where the song's going

Usually

I mean

That's not bad

But

You know where the song's going

And

The

The point of a lot of the songs

Is to

Along that path

Kind of stray and come back

And stray and come back

And

This one has no path

At all

It's completely

Aimless

Yeah

It's an interesting comparison

Of the two albums

That

Yeah

The other one is very guitar driven

Isn't it

Whereas this one's very beat

Beat and vocal driven

It's much cleverer

This one is

I think

There's a lot

This one's

And there's more

There's actually

It's interesting

Yeah sorry

The guitars

On the real thing

Took up a lot of space

Sonically

Yeah

Whereas with this one

There's a lot more synth

There's a lot more bass

Yeah okay

I think

There's some bits on here

That I just think

There are some bits on here

That I

Adore

And I

Like

I don't think I ever heard

When

I first listened to this

So

Everything's Ruined

For example

I just love it

I just

It's a song

That I could

Put on repeat

And

And have it

Running

Like

Over and over again

It's just

It's phenomenal

That song

Quite

Quite

Quite heavy

With guitars

On that one

Land of Sunshine

Kicks in with

Like

Big thick

Heavy guitars

Writing credit

For everything

On here

Is

Pattern

Really

Right

Which is

I do

I think

Is interesting

Well your first reaction

After you've been touring

For a couple years

Straight

And

Living with

The same five people

In pretty close quarters

Is to get away

And we did that

For a while

And

We

Pretty much

The whole time off

Consisted of just

Making excuses

And putting things off

And kind of

Patting each other

On the back

And

Saying everything's

Going to be great

And then

Not answering our phones

For a while

And a couple guys

In the band

Got kind of worried

I took some pleasure

In that

But I kept really busy

I did a bunch

Of other things

Kind of got that

Out of my system

And now

It's kind of

Time to go back

To work again

Yeah we definitely

Avoided the issue

Songs were being

Written

But certain people

Like

A guitar player

Let me rephrase that

Certain people

Were really

Hard to find

And I think

Were really

Kind of

Avoiding

The issue

And we had

To resort

To threats

And childish

Pranks

And

They worked

And now

Everyone wants

To work

And

Everything's

Great now

But we

Almost broke up

It was so bad

But yeah

It's

It's not like

There's no guitars

On this record

No no no no

But

It's just

It's not

Led by it

Yes I think

That's the one

Yeah

And yeah

But there are

Some

I think

You're right

There

What happens

Here

Is there's

Space

For other

Stuff

And there's

And they've

Always done that

I think

Quite nicely

Where you

End up with

Like the bass

Guitar

Do you know

I mean

There's

Space for

The texture

In the bass

Guitar

To come

Through

And that

Kind of

Underpins

The track

And then

Think

Then the

Track

Builds

From it

And you

Get that

Here

Midlife

Crisis

Is a good

Example

That we

Kind of

Just

You know

It's the

Bass

Guitar

Work

That

Kind of

Underpins

That

But yeah

It's

It's an

Interesting

Album

Like you

Say

It's not

It's not

Every

Track

Just beginning

With a

Big slab

Of guitar

And big

Riff

And then

You know

Screamy

Shouty

Off you

Go

It's a

It's a

Phenomenal

Record

I think

For the

Uniqueness

In each

Track

Just

Yeah

Like you

Say you

Could just

You could

Just like

Mishmash

It up a

Little bit

Yeah

It could go

In any

Order

Yeah

You could

You could

Put this

You know

You know

Like sometimes

Where you

Listen to an

Album

Sequence

It's got

To be

It's got

To be

In that

Order

And this

One

You just

And I

Think

They thought

Heavily

About it

You know

They made

It this

Order

But

For me

From

From the

Perspective

Of

The songs

And

You know

You could

Put these

Tracks in

Any order

And it

Would still

Make sense

As a

Record

Yeah

Because the

Songs are

Unique

And original

And they

Don't

Necessarily

Need

That

Album

Flow

Yeah

Yeah

I think

You're

Probably

Right

I think

Yeah

Like you

Say

There's

Some

Songs

That are

Kind of

In

Inextricably

Linked

Together

On

Albums

And

The

Album

Flow

It's like

I was thinking

Of the

Albums

Like an

Album is

Curated

Yeah

You know

It's like

It's like

Having an

Art gallery

But where

Do you

Put the

Song

How does

It fit

You know

Within the

Grand scheme

Of the

Thing

Where does

It fit

In the

Story

Of the

Of the

Piece

Of art

Of the

Body

Of work

And

With this

One

I don't

Think it

Matters

Too much

It's funny

When you

Said about

Avant-garde

Because

I suppose

This record

Is a

Little bit

Modern

Arty

You know

From

That

Not so

Much

Now

But certainly

At that

Time

In that

Era

Where

The

Zeitgeist

Was

You know

Your

Going

Going

Going

Through

The

Last

Record

For

Ten

Months

Just

Ourselves

Just

Trying to

Get

People

To

Listen

To

A

Record

And

All

A

Sudden

You know

The

Claim

Or

The

Success

That

Has

Come

What's

The

Difference

It's

The

Same

Record

You know

And

That's

We're

The

Same

People

We're

People

That's

What

We

Are

And

Nobody

None

Of

Us

I

Think

If

We

Wanted

To

Be

Become

Greater

We

Just

Become

Jerks

When

People

Wouldn't

Be

Listen

To

It

Was

Just

Misery

It

Was

We

Just

Got

Over

The

Big

Hair

And

Sunset

Strip

And

Everything

Being

Big

And

Brash

And

Bold

And

Everyone

Was

Someone

Made

Fun

Of

About

You

I

Think

Politically

There's

A lot

Of

Political

In

Rest

In

The

Early

Nineties

And

We

Were

All

Going

To

Die

Of

Climate

Change

So

All

Of

That

Was

Happening

And

There

Wasn't

A lot

Of

Positive

Stuff

Happening

In

The

World

So

Yeah

I

Think

It

Was

Reflected

That

But

This

Was

Like

Someone

Splatting

Paint

All

Over

The

Wall

Yeah

Yeah

Yeah

Yeah

It

Right

Actually

I guess

Musically

It

Was

Kind

Of

Pretty

Grey

You

Know

And

Then

These

Guys

Come

Along

And

Just

Wake

It

All

Up

Yeah

I

Do

I

Love

The

Concept

Of

The

Album

Name

As

Well

Angel

Dust

And

I

Did

I

Found

Like

Three

Or

Four

Different

Explanations

Of

Where

The

Name

I

Think

I

Do

Think

That

The

Band

When

They

Were

Being

Interviewed

Just

Made

Stuff

Up

Oh

There's

What

This

One

Here

Will

Play

It

And

It's

Talking

About

You

Know

What

The

Band

Name

Is

And

What

The

Album

Name

Is

And

Where

It

Came

From

When

They

Are

And

They

Just

Like

Yeah

Well

It

Doesn't

Really

Mean

I

Don't

Talk

About

It

I

Found

A

Bit

Where

I

Think

It

Was

Roddy

Bottom

If

I

Ever

Get

Renamed

I'm

Being

Renamed

That

That's

It

Is

One

Of

The

Best

Names

I

Love

One

Is

Roddy

Bottom

And

The

Other

One

Is

Johnny

Rod

And

I

Love

Those

Two

Names

So

There

You

Go

That

That's

Podcasting

Names

Will

Be

Anyway

There's

A

Lovely

Bit

From

Him

Where

He

It

Was

The

End

Of

An

Interview

And

It

Was

Typed

In

Like

I

Read

The

Interview

I

Didn't

Hear

It

But

He

The

Interview

Asks

Him

The

Name

Angel

Dust

And

What

Inspired

It

And

He

Just

Said

It

Kind

Of

Came

From

Nowhere

Really

But

It

It

Was

A

Beautiful

Name

For

Like

A

Hideous

Drug

Drug

And

We

Like

It

Was

A

Beautiful

Name

For

The

Hideous

Drug

That

Is

Our

Music

And

That's

Where

It

Came

From

And

I

Like

That's

The

Only

Explanation

That

I

Saw

That

I

Liked

So

Therefore

I

Have

I

Have

Taken

That

That

I

Think

Is

True

But

Yeah

I

Think

That's

That's

Really

Interesting

And

Then

The

Album

Cover

And

The

Artwork

And

Cows

On

The

Back

And

It's

A

Swan

On

The

Front

I

Don't

Know

I

Suppose

It

Looks

A

Bit

Like

A

Swan

It's

Just

Weird

Yeah

And

I

Think

That

Kind

Of

Sums

Up

Do

You

Know

I

Mean

The

When

We

Did

The

Real

Thing

The

Band

Didn't

Have

Much

To

Do

With

The

Album

Cover

Didn't

Really

Like

It

Weren't

Really

Bothered

Same

Is

True

Of

This

One

Yeah

They're

Making

Music

With

Their

Mates

That's

What

They're

Doing

The

Album

Cover

Came

From

The

Record

Company

Band

Didn't

Didn't

Didn't

Have

Much

To

Do

With

It

And

So

They're

Just

Like

Yeah

It's

A

Bird

In

It

Then

You

Can

Hear

When

You

When

You

When

The

Interviews

Happen

Yeah

It's

A bit

Weird

It's

Interesting

It might

Be worth

Talking

About

Their

Their

Record

Label

Was

Slash

Yeah

Who

Did

They

Did

All

Kinds

Of

Other

Other

Bands

But

They

Were

Very

Much

A

Kind

Of

A

Kind

Of

Underground

Label

You

Know

They

Weren't

Doing

Like

Super

Big

Bands

But

A

Lot

Of

These

Underground

Bands

That

They

Did

Became

Massive

Yeah

Yeah

Yeah

So

The

Label

Got

Really

Really

Big

And

I

Have

A

Real

Soft

Spot

For

That

I

Quite

Like

These

You

Know

These

Kind

Of

Move

Out

Now

Excuse

Yeah

The

Kind

Of

Movements

That

Kind

Of

Came

They

Were

San

Francisco

I

Actually

Didn't

Know

That

Yeah

And

They

Were

From

The

Bay

And

You

Know

In

Like

In

The

70s

And

80s

Like

The

Punk

Movement

And

But

The

Music

Scene

In

San

Francisco

Was

Bonkers

And

Absolutely

Crazy

So

You

Had

Like

Bob

Marley

Playing

And

Then

You

Have

Some

Not

Unheard

Of

Punk

Band

Playing

And

It

Was

A

Really

Rich

Music

Scene

And

They

That's

Where

They

Grow

Up

That's

Kind

Of

What

They

Were

Exposed

To

As

Kids

Kind

Of

Thing

And

I

Absolutely

Think

That

Was

Like

A

Core

Part

Of

Why

Faith

No

More

Ended

Up

Faith

No

More

Because

They

Yeah

Those

Scenes

I

Love

Those

Scenes

That

Kind

Of

Start

You

Know

It's

Kind

Of

From

The

Ground

And

You

End

But

I

Think

That

Scene

That

Whole

Thing

Would

Have

Been

A

Huge

Part

In

How

The

Band

Ended

Up

Do

You

Know

I

Mean

That

Mish

Mash

Of

Stuff

You

Know

It's

Almost

An

Inevitability

That

We

Were

Going

To

Get

Yes

A

Band

That

Was

Yeah

That's

Really

Interesting

Yeah

That

Makes

Huge

Sense

And

It's

That

Thing

About

There's

A few

Of

These

Episodes

That

Become

About

The

Geography

Of

Where

They're

From

And

Their

Environment

And

All

That

Sort

Of

Stuff

And

It's

Interesting

Isn't

Kind

Of

Driven

Raw

Sound

Whereas

If

You

Think

Of

The

Seattle

Sound

It

Was

Much

Rounder

And

Smoother

And

Not

As

Jagged

Yeah

That's

True

Yeah

Because

Even

This

You

Know

The

Faith

No

More

Sound

Is

Quite

Angular

Whereas

The

Grunge

Sound

Generally

Is

Quite

Rounded

Well

I'm

Proud

Of

Angel

Dust

Because

It

Was

Maybe

Not

The

Record

That

People

Wanted

Or

Expected

But

It

Was

The

Record

That

We

Came

Up

With

When

We

All

Put

Our

Shoulders

To

The

Grindstone

And

Pulled

On

The

Rope

And

Did

The

Best

We

Could

Challenged

Ourselves

Challenged

Each

Other

And

I'm

Proud

Of

That

Yeah

For

Sure

Favorite

Tunes

I

Don't

Pick

Favorites

I

Love

How

That

Album

Fits

Together

Beautifully

When

You

Don't

Do

That

Anymore

But

The

Whole

Thing

Runs

Together

With

The

Sequence

Beautifully

From

Start

To

Midnight

Cowboy

You

Know

I

Love

A lot

Of

Songs

On

There

Caffeine

Be

Aggressive

Midlife

Crisis

Everything's

Ruined

I

Like

Jizz

Lover

A

Lot

So

Hard

For

Me

To

Play

Favorites

It's

An

Album

I'm

Very

Satisfied

With

Very

Pleased

With

It

Wasn't

Accidental

We

Did

It

On

Purpose

It

Was

Us

Doing

Our

Best

To

Follow

Up

An

Extremely

Commercial

Record

With

Something

That

Wasn't

Necessarily

Expected

It

Represents

Us

Believing

In

What

We

Did

To

The

Extreme

And

I

Feel

Very

Good

About

That

I'm

Pretty

Proud

Of

That

I'm

Not

One

To

Keep

Favorites

Of

Albums

So

I

Can

Find

Good

Things

About

All

Of

Them

And

That

Is

Definitely

Something

I

Feel

Really

Good

About

Because

It

Was

A

Battle

Internally

And

Externally

And

I

Feel

Good

About

How

It

Turned

Out

So

I

Did

A

Thing

Called

The

Complete

History

Of

Faith

No

More

And

It

Covers

All

Of

That

All

That

Kind

Of

Stuff

The

Kind

Of

The

Early

Years

In

Formation

And

And

And

I

Found

A

Like

A

Poster

For

A

Club

Called

The

Kennel

Club

And

It

Had

Like

Bob

Marley

Short

Dogs

Grow

Eugene

Chadbourne

The

Sea

Hags

Crime

Dead

Milkman

All

Headlining

Night

After

Night

After

Night

You

Know

And

I

Just

Find

It

Absolutely

Fascinating

That

You

Don't

Tend

To

See

That

So

Much

These

Days

And

I

Think

A

Large

Part

Of

This

Is

Back

Then

These

What

Would

Have

Been

Independent

Music

Venues

Certainly

In

The

US

And

Here

In

The

UK

You

Would

Have

Had

These

Independent

Music

Venues

And

There

Would

Have

Been

Like

A

Path

Charted

So

You

Got

An

Album

Coming

Out

You

Go

Through

It

And

It

Didn't

Matter

What

Genre

You

Were

You

Made

Your

Way

Through

The

Various

Of

These

Places

And

Steadily

They've

All

Kind

Of

Gone

Out

Of

Business

You

Know

We've

Just

Seen

This

The

Kind

Of

Rise

Of

The

O2

And

These

Independent

Music

Venues

Kind

Of

Can't

Make

Ends

Meet

Anymore

It's

Really

Difficult

And

Certainly

In

Interesting

Work

They're

Getting

Money

Aren't

They

From

Big

Artists

So

When

You

Buy

Your

$100

$200

ticket

Here

In

The

UK

Like

A

Percentage

Of

That

The

Vast

Majority

That

Goes

To

Ticket

Master

Some

Of

It

Goes

To

These

Independent

Music

Venues

And

I

Just

Think

It's

So

Important

It

Really

Is

Important

Because

You

Can't

If

You're

You know

If

You're

A band

And

You

And

We

Talked

About

Scon

Canancy

Being

Signed

On

Early

Gigs

And

Stuff

There's

Nowhere

For

Those

Bands

To

Play

If

You've

Got

If

The

Only

Place

You

Can

Play

Is

On

A

Support

Leg

Of

You

Know

Some

On

The

Oasis

Tour

Yeah

Which

These

Days

You've

Got to

Pay

X

Thousand

Pounds

To

Jump

On

And

I

Just

Think

It's

I

Don't

Know

I

I'm

Not

Saying

There

Aren't

Any

We're

Really

Lucky

Here

There

Were

Some

Lovely

Independent

Music

Venues

Near

Us

But

I

Think

In

General

Nottingham

In

Particular

Yeah

Nottingham

Is

Really

Quite

Cool

But

I

Think

You

Know

I

Was

In

Norwich

A

Few

Weeks

Ago

And

It

Really

Hit

Me

How

Many

Of

These

Kind

Of

Like

Bars

Cafes

That

Have

Got

A

Live

Music

Space

You

You